. >> [inaudible] >> it was like in redwood city. how many forms of transportation? you took bart to cal trains and then walked two miles. i have been a member of carshare for a while and then you introduce the access program. it was great. that was fabulous. >> [inaudible] >> i love those testimonials. i'm happy to answer any questions that anybody might have. >> thank you very much. we are going to open it up to the council first and then to the public. am i right? okay. i'm getting it. okay. we are going to hold it up. we have mr. wong. >> yes. thank you for the presentation. in the future i would like to find more information about how to obtain and use the vehicle accessible van and one thing, sorry my notes are not -- like for the securement, does the company provide the 4 point for the wheelchair? >> each van has securing devices. they are standardized now across the advance when we first brought them out. the side ones had slightly different securing devices than the back loading ones but now they are the same so anybody usin